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Hi folks
Just having a little question about Vajrasattva purification.
Just found out (well I should have been more attentive I suppose)
that one does the mantra 21 times everyday to couter any daily
infractions to keep it from multipying.
Now since my Sadhana I'm practicing says "as many as possible"
I've been doing 7 - 14 everyday for 9 months.
Any good advice how to get back "on track" haha?
Doesn't karma also multiply?
Thanks
/Marcos
Just having a little question about Vajrasattva purification.
Just found out (well I should have been more attentive I suppose)
that one does the mantra 21 times everyday to couter any daily
infractions to keep it from multipying.
Now since my Sadhana I'm practicing says "as many as possible"
I've been doing 7 - 14 everyday for 9 months.
Any good advice how to get back "on track" haha?
Doesn't karma also multiply?
Thanks
/Marcos
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Re: Vajrasattva
Sat, April 23, 2011 - 8:19 AMIf by "back on track" you mean doing more recitations - what is/are obstacles getting in the way of this?
If you need motivation to purify your karma, contemplate 4 thoughts and read commentaries. . . read about the hell realms, and think about worldwide suffering. Complete 21 recitations with that in mind. Just think how even if you just increase your vajrasattva to 21x per day, you will be able to purify that much more of the world's sorrows and violence. -
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Re: Vajrasattva
Sat, April 23, 2011 - 9:56 AMGood point, Ezekiel!
Marcos, If you know why you are practicing, doing so is easy.
Many people do 400 prostrations, 100s of Vajrrasattva
mantras every day. People engaged with Yidam practice
often complete 25 or more malas a day.
And, if we understand Karma, then we understand that we
are not the only ones in our predicament. Our ENTIRE experience
comes from our belief in a self and the actions of mind, speech
and body that arise from that core mistaken view. We cannot blame
others for anything! Ever single being is doing exactly the same thing--
they believe that there are gods and demons populating their lives
in the form of bosses, parents, spouses, co-workers...
There are so many mis-perceptions to purify.
Comes a time we are less involved with managing our own karma
and trying to do something for others. Not to suggest that beginners
can actually accomplish the benefit of others, but we become less
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Re: Vajrasattva
Sat, April 23, 2011 - 9:57 AMOh, BTW, Everything you need to know
is in a book called Words of My Perfect Teacher
by Patrul Rinpoche. There are other texts,
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Re: Vajrasattva
Thu, April 28, 2011 - 8:54 AMThank you both for you replies, but maybe I was bad at
expressing me :)
Your right I should read more about karma and try to
understand it more fully! But I have no doubt in it or
that I accumulate it all of the time because of wrong view etc :)
I was more aiming at the fact that since I've taken all 3
sets of vows and am engaging in sertain Sadhanas everyday,
that since the minimum is 21 vajrasattvas per day I havent really
been doing that many, and wonder if there is "extra" accumulation
of negative karma since I have all vows etc.... but sure more is always better :)
But yes, I love to go back to the basic teachings... the root is so beatiful lol
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Re: Vajrasattva
Thu, April 28, 2011 - 9:21 AMMarcos,
Well, your original question was how to get "back on track." So I thought maybe you were asking how to motivate yourself to increase your daily VS accumulations.
Yes, when you take all the vows, the karma of breaking it is greater (you not only have the karma of the action itself, you also have the karma of breaking the vow).
For example, all sentient beings suffer from the karma of afflicted view. . . but when you take the tantric vows of pure view, and yet continue to have ordinary thoughts contaminated by the poisons - the karma of your afflicted view is compounded by the karma of breaking your tantric vow. Not great! And yes, negative karma is said to multiply on its own. So 21 repetitions of the 100-syllable mantra will stop this negative karma from multiplying. (I've also heard that 108 rep's of VS 6-syllable mantra is sufficient for this.) And if you want to actually start to eliminate it altogether, rather than just maintain it at a level where it doesn't increase - then don't stop at 21.
Mark can confirm this please!
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Re: Vajrasattva
Thu, April 28, 2011 - 10:39 AMCorrect. 21 is not enough to uproot the deeds of body speech
and mind, it does not denature the seed as it were, it only freezes
them so they don't proliferate. Patrul Rinpoche recommends
1 mala of 100-syllable mantra, daily. He further jokes that
if you have the siddhi of "speaking things into being," you need
to do even more, because of the things you say! ;)
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Re: Vajrasattva
Fri, April 29, 2011 - 8:12 AMThank you Ezekiel, and to Mark also
And I will try to express myself a little better in the future :) hehe
Thank you for you answere, it makes alot of sense and I will also
follow your advice.
Take care
/Marcos
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Re: Vajrasattva
Wed, May 18, 2011 - 2:56 PMI wouldn't worry too much about it. Having done similar things, I simply apologize for my ignorance and begin the corrected practice as soon as possible. That's me, though....in one case, I tried to "make up" a couple of malas, but realized that the time had past, and in reality there was nothing I could do to "put" those malas back in the past :-).
Remember my favorite mantra: Pobody's nerfect :-), we just do the best we know how to at the moment :-).
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Re: Vajrasattva
Sun, May 1, 2011 - 1:25 PMI think it's more important to do them mindfully and with intention to help other beings.
Just do 21 in a focused way until you feel like you have time to do more and don't be nervous abt that which is key.
If someone you know is in the bardo, then worry abt doing lots and lots of Vajrasattva every day for a cpl weeks. -
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Re: Vajrasattva
Sun, May 1, 2011 - 5:55 PMCertainly we start with Bodhicitta, practice well in the middle and dedicate
in the end. This is not just our personal concern, but what we do for others
always reflects back on us. There simply is no escaping karma, good or bad.
Likewise, our merit multiplies in the same way or de-merit does.
Isn't it funny that we worry about bad karma while not practicing accumulation
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Re: Vajrasattva mantra chant online, Vajrasattva script, meaning and significance in different schools and practices
Fri, August 19, 2011 - 11:40 AM
A short chant for Vajrasattva is given on youtube at
www.youtube.com/watch
In highest yoga tantra, it is basic that one should complete 100,000 long Vajrasattva.
Obviously, 100,000 short Vajrasattva is *not* the same thing.
Vajrasattva is primary for both Atiyoga / Dzogchen and for Mahamudra, such as Kalacakra - Vajrasattva. In the Sakya Hevajra, there is a branch empowerment of Vajrasattva, because it is so important.
Many primary high practices always include Vajrasattva as part of the sadhana practice texts, e.g. Sakya Vajrayogini, Shangpa Wisdom Mahakala, Cakrasamvara, Hundred Deities Shitro-Bardo and so forth. Usually at least 3 recitations of the long 100 syllable mantra.
So to "leave behind" Vajrasattva would be to leave behind the practices of Vajrayogini, Mahakala, Shitro-Bardo and other main practices. Not recommended.
I completed 250,000 long Vajrasattva, and Vajrasattva in one form or another is one of my primary practices. A main example is Vajrasattva-Vajrakila, which is important ( or crucially important ) in 3 of the 4 schools of "Tibetan" Buddhism.
Guru Padmasambhava completed 12 years retreat on Vajrasattva-Vajrakilaya. It was a primary practice and primary protector for him, and also for Guhyajnanadakini Yeshe Tsogyel.
And all Vajrapani practice is Vajrasattva-Vajrapani practice, just as all Kalacakra is Vajrasattva and all Vajrakilaya is Vajrasattva and all Hundred Deities practice is Vajrasattva.
And Garab Dorje / Joyous Vajra, the founder teacher of Great Perfection / Atiyoga / Dzogchen, was an emanation of Vajrasattva.
I began teaching core understanding of Vajrasattva on tribe.net back in 2007, as one of my first posts, here and elsewhere.
The basic 100 syllable mantra in Sanskrit script and with translation is given on my tribe home at
people.tribe.net/aa35e5c2-...2bfc3044a6
I will continue to post more teaching on Vajrasattva long term on tribe Nonsecular Buddhism
nonsecularbuddhism.tribe.net/
at
nonsecularbuddhism.tribe.net/thr...1d8e
It is important to understand the Ten Precepts and the Bodhisattva Vows and Tantric Precepts in order to keep these pure, and to practice mantra purification such as Vajrasattva in order to purify karma.
I always "worry about karma", and try to keep it clean. I recommend the same approach to all tantrikas.
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